Rob Quin writes an open letter to the England Cricket Board

by coverpoint

Rob Quin, founder of the Facebook campaign 'Test Cricket for Ireland' writes a frank letter to the English Cricket Board.


Dear England Cricket Board,

It seems that relationships between England and Ireland at this point in history are extremely cordial, as good as at any time in the last millennium or two.

Cordial is probably the right word to describe how the ECB treat Cricket Ireland. For years England basically ignored Ireland offered a token MCC fixture, the regular Irish contingent that visited Lord's every year welcomed as a bunch of talented enthusiastic beer swilling amateurs although looked upon with a touch of curiosity by the local MCC members.

However Ireland's rise as a cricketing country over the past few years has left the hierarchy of English Cricket a familiar question asked by the English upper classes for centuries, How to solve the Irish question ?

The problem for England stems from fear, fear of competition off the field, fear of losing on the field to the upstart minnow neighbors. Of course this was a preposterous suggestion twenty years ago, but not today. Paddy Power quote Ireland as 5/1 to beat England with England 1/10 to win at the upcoming T20 World Cup, still long shot's but not no hopers, the odds men are saying that Ireland will beat England once every 7.5 games, to the hierarchy and old boy network of the MCC that simply cannot happen, the very thought of it evokes the fear that is sterilizing the game in England.

The ECB selection policy has trusted in the development structures of South Africa and Ireland as much as their own. The England squad contains eleven English born players; eleven Irish born players will also compete at the world cup although outlandishly to some, one of those will be paying against Ireland for England.

While the game in Ireland goes through a massive upswing the same cannot be said in England with playing numbers on the decline.

The England Captain for the upcoming World T20 Paul Collingwood asked about England's chances declared Ireland as a 'very workmanlike' side whom England have 'played quite a lot recently'.

That's a load of John Bull by any standard Mr. Collingwood. A fixture in 2006, one at the World Cup in 2007 (you could not avoid that one) and one last year when all you and the England players did was moan and whinge about having to play an ODI when all you really wanted to do was party after winning the Ashes. In fact Sir you have played Ireland in T20 cricket international the same number of times I have won a formula one Grand Prix, or an Olympic Gold, this week when you play Ireland you will equal the number times I caddied my player to a top ten in a PGA Tour event, one time.

If the definition of a couple of begrudging fixtures over five years and zero fixtures in an ODI or T20 international against England in England is Collingwood's measure of games between the sides, the ECB stand accused of a shameful record of aiding the development of Cricket at the highest level. The ECB should stop viewing Ireland as a nursery and more of a potential competitor with revenue producing possibilities for both in a similar way that Australia worked with New Zealand. Does the ECB have a policy to help Ireland or are you content to merely follow ICC directives ?

The potential of Ireland v England is massive in Tests, ODI and T20. Particularly in T20 three team and four team tournaments with touring sides.

Contrary to the opinions of former coach Duncan Fletcher who stated his views against a two tier Test system by claiming 'England's visit to Bangladesh would stimulate enthusiasm in a way playing Zimbabwe or Ireland never would'. Of course England are such regular visitors to Dharka and Chittagong. Voicing against a two-tier system in Test Cricket is one thing but reasoning against it on England's record of aiding developing Cricket nations is laughable.

The biggest fixture in Bangladesh is the one against India, why because they are neighbours, England's biggest game is Australia, why ? Because of history. The only other reason to create a rivalry in sport is closeness in ability. Rivalry in sport equals revenue. We all know at the end of the day its all about the money.

Ireland v England has the proximity factor, the historical factor (granted not necessarily on the cricket pitch), and if England stopped nicking our players the ability factor. Take Morgan out of the England side put him in the Irish side and what are the odds makers quoting then ?

To this writer it is a tragedy that last years Ireland Under 19's did not get an opportunity to play England at that level. At the recent Under 19 World Cup only Bangladesh finished between the countries as England claimed 8th place and Ireland 10th although such is the ICC seeding system that the two countries did not play each other.

Both Cricket Ireland and the ECB need to establish an annual fixture at this level at the very least and since Ireland have hosted England to two ODI's in Belfast surely its common courtesy to extend an invitation to play a biannual ODI in England.

How about it Old Boy ?

Respectfully,
Rob Quin.


Copyright: Cover Point 

Comments

4/27/2010 5:12:20 PM #

Hard word,
It's got to be a tough one for England. Obviously they see it as a lose lose for them now. If they play us more they'll get beaten sooner rather than later.
They'll be killed in the press and only boost cricket more in Ireland.
You're right thought if they would look beyond their noses they would see it's the future. They need more competition anyway as they are off the pace in world cricket and in youth development , especially at the 20/20 version. Grow up England and smell the coffee. How do the England fringe players feel when they have to sit out while some South African and Paddies put on some English accents but fool no one.

davo United Kingdom

5/3/2010 8:35:28 PM #

a very well written and well argued article.
i was looking at the current English team at the T20 WC in the West Indies and there are atleast 4 players that have qualified to play for England through ancestry or naturalisation.
if these 4 players werent around, what would England's chances be? i remember the UAE side in 96 being made up of expats. The English team seems to be gradually heading that way.

sagir United Kingdom

5/19/2010 12:30:02 AM #

Dear Rob.

This article proves that you have little or no knowledge of the nature of cricket let alone English Cricket.

You confuse the roles of the MCC & the ECB's roles in English Cricket.

The ECB control everything to do with English cricket & that only, other than arranging overseas tours with other national boards (e.g BCCI, ACB etc), they have nothing to do with cricket overseas whatsoever.

The MCC controlled cricket in England up until the early ninties (then called the TCCB), when it was deemed antiquated & so therefore it was professionalised at board level, thus forming the ECB. The two are in no way linked, in this day & age the MCC have no power within English cricket & is nothing more than a gentlemans' club & charity. Some of their most notable charitable activities in the last five years include development of the game in Afghanistan. A team that nowadays beat you're beloved Ireland with great regularity! So, yes you could say that the MCC are stifling the game in Ireland!! Smile  

Also, you clain that cricket is dwindling England, wheres it is anything but. The National team in the last six years have: beaten the West Indies away from home for the first time since 1968, went a whole season unbeaten (2004), beat South Africa away for the first time in the post apartheid era, beat India away (first since 1982).... Oh & won the ashes twice after going eighteen years winless & the t20 World Cup.

As a result of all this success & the ECB investing millions in infrastructure (Loughborough etc) in the last ten years, participation levels have been on the up since. Just look at the improvement of womens cricket over the last few years. Not to mention the great work done by sponsors such as Vodafone, NatWest bank & Brit insurance.

All this is a far cry away from the dark days of the 1990s.

Now Rob, I know you're riposte here would be to point a finger at the SA born players in the squad, but my answer to that will be that all (& I mean ALL) of them learned & finetuned their games in England. KP was arrived at my native Nottinghamshire as a mediocre off-spinner, Jon Trott has Britsh parents. Craig Kieswetter was educated at Millfield (one of the poshest private schools in the country), not to mention rejecting Graeme Smith's personal call to come back to SA. Michael Lumb's father played for Yorkshire for 20 years, Mike himself moved to England when he was 17. Strauss & Prior came to England as infants. ALL of which have at least one British parent. There are no Tony Cascarinos in this England team!

These players came to England to fufill themselves, they all chose to play for my country because they knew they would get a fair chance & yes if they do well money will be rightfully on offer. We are not the racist nation that you Irish seem to paint us as in this day & age. If you want to be one of us, you can be & in my opinion anyone who has a differing view on nationhood (you maybe?) is unenlightend.

Did you notice all those "South African imports" singing God Save the Queen at the t20 final? If you did, then you would have seen this view in action.

Eoin Moragn didn't sing GSTQ, but I understand, he's an Irishman, & I respect that fact. Just like I understand why he turned his back on Ireland to play for England.

It's mainly two things: money & professional furfilment. He would not get any of these things if he stayed with Ireland. Never. Just like he would not be as good a player as he is if he never moved to England to turn pro. I remember when he played for Ireland, he was nowhere near the player he has now become. He looked out of his depth at the 2007 world cup. The reason why he is as good as he is now is due to the fact he developed his array of shots in County Cricket &  the now world class England Lions Academy at Loughbough. He learned nothing with Ireland. By quashing the rumours of his batting's deveopment being aided by hurling (???), he has pretty much confirmed this.

I have sympathy with Ireland over this, but it is not the ECB that is to blame, anybody with an EU passport can play in England. It is international law. Irish players want to play county cricket professionally. Morgan WANTED to play for England, & is legally allowed to do so. He wasn't forced at gunpoint.

As for the arguement that Morgan will never be accepted because he is not English? Well he has, because of his feats so far. He has proved willing to run through brick walls for the shirt he wears. Thats good enough for me!

So how can Ireland keep their finest from flying the nest? In all honesty I don't know. Because I know one thing, Ireland will never be good enough to gain full ICC menbership. & I mean never.

Ireland will not be able to deliver a fully professional First-Class system that Bangladesh have been able to. Cricket at the highest level in Ireland is eqivalent to club cricket in the UK. A giant piss-up basicly! Not a well oiled system that it is in England, Australia, India etc.

There is a lack of professional cricketing infrastructure in Ireland. Even if you want it, how are you going to pay for it? Cricket is a niche sport in Ireland, not many are interested in it, so Irish cricket will not attract any meaningful sponsorship. The only time the Irish public ever show any interest in the game is if they play England (not reciprocated) or if they fluke a win against Pakistan in a tournament. Will Irish grounds sell out if they were playing Bangladesh? No.

ICC rules state that Member nations' players have to play primarily in that country. Would Irelands county players give up those lucrative contracts and move back? No.

Are Ireland actually good enough? I don't think so. They have only produced one, maybe two test class players (Morgan & Joyce) ever in you're history. I doubt that Rankin, Porterfield, Stirling are good enough. They will become, what we call in England "County plodders" & nothing more. The O'Briens, Johnstone, McCallan et al are barely good enough to be pros, let alone test players. You have only produced one bowler that can bowl over 80mph in your history! Your new 'star' Dockrell can't even turn the ball.

Test Cricket is much harder than t20 or 50 over cricket where you can fluke a win on occasion. It is serious stuff. The word "Test" means just that, if a player has flaws in their game they will get found out. The thought of Ireland going into a test match against England at Lords or Australia at the MCG with Trent Johnston in the side is, frankly, laughable. I'm not saying this to demean you, or Trent, but because it's the god's honest truth & you know it. If you don't, then you are a moron.

There are doubts whether Bangladesh should be playing tests. The reason why they got promoted was because they won everything going in accossiate cricket for many years on the bounce & there is a genuine clamour for the game there. Does Ireland have the capacity for any of this?

No. You can't even beat Afghanistan.

Lastly, to answer you directly, I have it on good knowledge that the reason for Collingwood's surliness against your team last year was because the England team rather had played England Lions as they would provide a stiffer test than a rag-tag Ireland team at a windswept Belfast ever would. Even then you almost fluked a rain affected win.

But not quite....

....& that about sums up Irish Cricket from my perspective.


Warmest regards & best wishes from across the water!

You'll need it.

Luke.




Oh, & stop the "Old Boy" nonsense, it makes you sound like an anti-English bigot.

Luke United Kingdom

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